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Post by Yami on Dec 15, 2015 3:36:07 GMT
Just a little thought I had the other day. Why doesn't Pikmin appeal to more people? I always thought strategy games were quite popular. I know people love puzzles. Is it because it's RTS? The graphics are too cartoony? Despite the cartoony looking characters Pikmin has a realistic looking environment. It makes me sad that Pikmin is forgotten about in the Nintendo fanbase. Heck just now I found out that Pikmin had a mini game in Nintendo Land. I never saw anyone talk about it before.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 15, 2015 6:57:57 GMT
Oh my gosh I can't agree with this enough!!!!! It makes me very sad that Pikmin isn't played by many people. I'm not sure why Pikmin isn't a more popular series. Maybe because it's too complicated to appeal to the masses...? I dunno. I think marketing also has something to do with it. Maybe if there was a massive marketing campaign for Pikmin 4, more people would be interested in it...
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Post by SpiralBlaze on Dec 15, 2015 13:03:00 GMT
It's probably marketing. Nintendo's had a problem with not trying when it comes to marketing, especially new or niche IPs. They do make a fair amount of new IP, but nobody actually knows about them and those franchises end up collecting dust. Splatoon shows that if they try, a new franchise can end up being a smash-hit, but that was a recent game so Ninty hasn't done it to that level with anything else so far, which is a shame since games like Xenoblade X get over looked due to marketing imcompetence.
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Post by Yami on Dec 15, 2015 14:18:44 GMT
Yeah the same can be said about the Wii U. Nintendo needs to up their marketing.
I think another reason it's a turn off for some is because it's time base. I tried telling someone to give 2 a try because you can take your time. Nope still too time base for them. I then explained time freezes underground. Nope. I guess some people don't like playing games outside of their comfort zone. :/
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Post by Creative Sushi on Dec 15, 2015 16:47:26 GMT
Pikmin was a strange looking game on a strange looking console. The Gamecube didn't sell very well, and Nintendo did very little marketing for the game. The most effective marketing tactic they did was advertise Pikmin in Luigi's mansion and that already requires a person to own a Gamecube. Then Nintendo later releases the Wii U which is also under-preformed, with the promise that Pikmin 3 would be a game near the original lineup of games, but then it gets delayed. Not to mention all of those people who have a wii u and never played the previous games might have thought, "Well I better not play the third game before I play the other two," and then they either never actually go to play the first two and forget about it or play the first two and then go to the store to pick up Pikmin 3 and realize that you can't even buy the game anymore because the retail version is discontinued. There are lots of reasons, honestly. Its just a hidden gem.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Jan 2, 2016 4:36:07 GMT
It's probably marketing. Nintendo's had a problem with not trying when it comes to marketing, especially new or niche IPs. They do make a fair amount of new IP, but nobody actually knows about them and those franchises end up collecting dust. Splatoon shows that if they try, a new franchise can end up being a smash-hit, but that was a recent game so Ninty hasn't done it to that level with anything else so far, which is a shame since games like Xenoblade X get over looked due to marketing imcompetence. Xenoblade is inherently niche, it will never sell Mario or even Splatoon levels... with that said it has been marketed amazingly for what it is, and is actually out selling the original, even with around 10% of the Wii's install base. As for Pikmin, I'd say 2 things. Pikmin IS marketed, but not as widely as other games, and beyond that... I think the series is inherently niche as well. It is VERY hard to explain to new comers, hard to grasp at first, very complex, and while it maybe be attractive to some due to the cute Pikmin, the idea of controlling 100 alines as multiple captians and having them multitask and do different tasks may be off-putting to some.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Jan 8, 2016 3:07:51 GMT
Actually, I'm fine with Pikmin being as unpopular as it is. It's at that point of being large enough for Nintendo to care, yet small enough that Pikmin fans are fewer and therefore more meaningful to find. It's like living in a small town vs a metropolis; you care to talk to them more since they don't overwhelm you.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Jan 8, 2016 4:55:27 GMT
I see where your coming from but the fact that Pikmin isn't as popular as it should DOES make Nintendo care less; it doesn't sell well, meaning they pump out games less.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Jan 13, 2016 2:54:52 GMT
I don't think Niche is necessarily a BAD thing. Pikmin isn't pumped out every year or two, but they take their time with the games, and while Nintendo does this with a good chunk of their series, other developers don't. Nintendo still cares about Pikmin, it may have had a 9 year gap between 2 and 3 (probably due to the chnage from Wii to Wii U) but 4 has already been confirmed to be almost done.
Xenoblade is also a good example of a more niche Nintendo game that still does okay, and isn't churned out (partially because Monolithsoft likes to take around 5 eyars with these games) but is still developed constantly, and is very high quality. Also, on the topic of games like Xenoblade, niche has one major benefit, which is that because it isn't super popular, and the major fans of the series won't spoil the game, its easy to play niche games without being spoiled online, while something like MGSV, which was not very niche, was a long game that was definitely spoiled online. Pikmin may not be very plot focused, but if Pikmin 4 does have a good plot, it is unlikely that it will be spoiled everywhere.
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Post by seanincorporated on Jan 27, 2016 1:42:57 GMT
This is why the game should have online multiplayer. Since not a lot of people know about, or care about pikmin, there should be a way to play with those that do.
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Post by Neocraftz1553 on Jan 27, 2016 2:42:47 GMT
Yeah, it does make me quite sad when I know some people haven't even heard of any of the Pikmin games, even some Nintendo fans. I think the hame getting taken off shelves way too early and marketing has definatly something to do with it. In fact, in the times of P3 and P2, I almost never saw a commercial or ad about the games. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I do not see any trailer ads or anything of the like until I completely miss the launch date and end up discovering it 3 months after XD(that happened to me with P3...). Hopefully there is plenty of notice this time around.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Jan 28, 2016 0:21:38 GMT
Yeah, it does make me quite sad when I know some people haven't even heard of any of the Pikmin games, even some Nintendo fans. I think the hame getting taken off shelves way too early and marketing has definatly something to do with it. In fact, in the times of P3 and P2, I almost never saw a commercial or ad about the games. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I do not see any trailer ads or anything of the like until I completely miss the launch date and end up discovering it 3 months after XD(that happened to me with P3...). Hopefully there is plenty of notice this time around. I actually saw an ad for Pikmin 3 in my movie theater. But yeah, the marketing for these games overall was very bad.
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Post by PikFan23 on Jan 28, 2016 0:36:22 GMT
It's been mentioned before that Pikmin's more difficult and off-putting to people than other series, but I feel like that'd be negated if there was more marketing. But they don't market it because it sells less, and it sells less because of poor marketing, and also the apparent difficulty BECAUSE of no marketing! If they would just give it a massive push, I'm sure it'd sell more. Nintendo just needs to give it a bigger chance. Marketing please.
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