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Post by Nvortex on Apr 9, 2016 20:52:59 GMT
Just so it's not too complicated, Pikmin make the same sound effects as if it was poison and visually they look like poison.
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Post by marty20 on Apr 9, 2016 20:55:24 GMT
I don't know about the dust, but concerning the ink, I think it's not a type of poison as White Pikmin can get inked and they're supposed to be immune to poison (not to mention they're poisonous). Personnally, I'd classify them as... panic.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Apr 11, 2016 0:39:37 GMT
I'd say so. Or we could just wait till Pikmin 4, might be confirmed at that point.
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Post by PikFan23 on Apr 12, 2016 5:29:47 GMT
Going with Marty here. They should be classified as panic. But since there's no way to tell how Purple Pikmin respond to them, I'm not so sure... Gah, there's way too many inconsistencies! Hopefully Pikmin 4 will shed light on this, as well as many other mysteries...
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Post by Creative Sushi on Apr 13, 2016 23:35:33 GMT
Going with Marty here. They should be classified as panic. But since there's no way to tell how Purple Pikmin respond to them, I'm not so sure... Gah, there's way too many inconsistencies! Hopefully Pikmin 4 will shed light on this, as well as many other mysteries...0 I'm sure you meant white? Calling it "Panic" seems kinda silly. Its obviously a sort of chemical that is hurting them. Does the Ink and Phosbat dust kill them if they whistle? I honestly don't remember, but I'm thinking it does, and if it does, I find it silly to argue that they die over heart attacks because they are "panicked."
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Post by Scruffy on Apr 14, 2016 1:43:06 GMT
Going with Marty here. They should be classified as panic. But since there's no way to tell how Purple Pikmin respond to them, I'm not so sure... Gah, there's way too many inconsistencies! Hopefully Pikmin 4 will shed light on this, as well as many other mysteries...0 I'm sure you meant white? Calling it "Panic" seems kinda silly. Its obviously a sort of chemical that is hurting them. Does the Ink and Phosbat dust kill them if they whistle? I honestly don't remember, but I'm thinking it does, and if it does, I find it silly to argue that they die over heart attacks because they are "panicked." Marty has already figured out with video proof that White Pikmin run around if they are inked, they are not immune (we don't know about Purples yet because they never exist along with Sputtlefish or Toady Bloysters). And Pikmin don't die from either of these, they just run around arbitrarily until you whistle or until the effects wear off after 5 or 6 seconds. So these are certainly not the form of poison from Pikmin 2. And since Pikmin don't die from ink or dust but just get agitated and run about, "panic" seems like a highly appropriate word to encompass both of them until Pikmin 4 sheds more light. In real life inking is a defensive measure that usually doesn't hurt predators, just distract them. Honestly I'd like to say the same thing about the dust, since the Vehemoth Phosbat turns invisible while dusting: it's not attacking Pikmin, it's just forming a dust cloud to distract you and Pikmin while it gets away. It could probably be a hormonal dust that confuses Pikmin. (obviously it's not adapted to confuse the leaders with their filtering suits)
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Post by Nvortex on Apr 14, 2016 3:17:54 GMT
Going with Marty here. They should be classified as panic. But since there's no way to tell how Purple Pikmin respond to them, I'm not so sure... Gah, there's way too many inconsistencies! Hopefully Pikmin 4 will shed light on this, as well as many other mysteries...0 I'm sure you meant white? Calling it "Panic" seems kinda silly. Its obviously a sort of chemical that is hurting them. Does the Ink and Phosbat dust kill them if they whistle? I honestly don't remember, but I'm thinking it does, and if it does, I find it silly to argue that they die over heart attacks because they are "panicked." By panic he means like the one in Pikmin 2 with the Bulblax's scream and the Mitite's pheromones...which purples are immune to...coincidence? i think yes, obviously. Purples are "immune" to ink because they can't get too deep in the water because of their stomp.
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Post by PikFan23 on Apr 14, 2016 4:12:27 GMT
Going with Marty here. They should be classified as panic. But since there's no way to tell how Purple Pikmin respond to them, I'm not so sure... Gah, there's way too many inconsistencies! Hopefully Pikmin 4 will shed light on this, as well as many other mysteries...0 I'm sure you meant white? Calling it "Panic" seems kinda silly. Its obviously a sort of chemical that is hurting them. Does the Ink and Phosbat dust kill them if they whistle? I honestly don't remember, but I'm thinking it does, and if it does, I find it silly to argue that they die over heart attacks because they are "panicked." Yeah, Nvortex knows what I'm talking about. Also, why did you think that ink/dust were lethal to Pikmin? Because they're not...I feel like that's common knowledge...or it should be, anyway. And I did mean Purples, because in Pikmin 2, they're the only type that are resistant to panicking, so since we can't test Purples here, we have no way of knowing if ink/dust actually are a form of panic (assuming Purples are still resistant). But given that Pikmin flail around for a moment when inked/dusted, then return to normal, I think it's safe to call them a type of panic. Also, what Scruffy said goes here.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Apr 15, 2016 4:02:39 GMT
Yeah, Nvortex knows what I'm talking about. Also, why did you think that ink/dust were lethal to Pikmin? Because they're not...I feel like that's common knowledge...or it should be, anyway. And I did mean Purples, because in Pikmin 2, they're the only type that are resistant to panicking, so since we can't test Purples here, we have no way of knowing if ink/dust actually are a form of panic (assuming Purples are still resistant). But given that Pikmin flail around for a moment when inked/dusted, then return to normal, I think it's safe to call them a type of panic. Also, what Scruffy said goes here. Because I never gave my Pikmin enough time to run around scared that they would die. ;P Well since they don't die by either of these, then I guess panic is a more acceptable word. Even more so that White Pikmin are effected, which I didn't know either.
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Post by PikFan23 on Apr 15, 2016 8:03:36 GMT
Yeah, Nvortex knows what I'm talking about. Also, why did you think that ink/dust were lethal to Pikmin? Because they're not...I feel like that's common knowledge...or it should be, anyway. And I did mean Purples, because in Pikmin 2, they're the only type that are resistant to panicking, so since we can't test Purples here, we have no way of knowing if ink/dust actually are a form of panic (assuming Purples are still resistant). But given that Pikmin flail around for a moment when inked/dusted, then return to normal, I think it's safe to call them a type of panic. Also, what Scruffy said goes here. Because I never gave my Pikmin enough time to run around scared that they would die. ;P Well since they don't die by either of these, then I guess panic is a more acceptable word. Even more so that White Pikmin are effected, which I didn't know either. Oh, hehe, gotcha. But I really wonder why Nintendo decided to make "poison" (ie the ink and dust) a non-lethal hazard in this game, along with electricity... I wonder if it was to appeal to the new players? Well, I hope P4 has a hard mode because I want some challenge.
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