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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 1, 2015 3:34:17 GMT
OH MY GOD! We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year) Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season. The reason that I said they might, is becuase they should. 1. The Wii U is not a flop, the wii u is under-preformed. The virtual boy was a flop. 2. The average span of a console is 5 years, and 2018 would be the fifth year of the Wii U. 3. For your B point I'd say. "Who gives a crap?" Thats brings no evidence. But if you want an actual answer, Since the Wii U is underpreformed, they wanted people to know that they are still alive and don't plan on dying. 4. So your advising that they do the same thing that they did before and expect different results? Great idea! 5. That seems to make sense, the next console would come the same year as very big titles for the previous titles. Makes allot of sense. Actually, 2018 will be the 6th year of the Wii U... lol But I agree with everything you've said, Creative. I still think that 2016 is too early, and it'd mess up the generation system, like I said in a previous post.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Dec 1, 2015 4:08:37 GMT
The reason that I said they might, is becuase they should. 1. The Wii U is not a flop, the wii u is under-preformed. The virtual boy was a flop. 2. The average span of a console is 5 years, and 2018 would be the fifth year of the Wii U. 3. For your B point I'd say. "Who gives a crap?" Thats brings no evidence. But if you want an actual answer, Since the Wii U is underpreformed, they wanted people to know that they are still alive and don't plan on dying. 4. So your advising that they do the same thing that they did before and expect different results? Great idea! 5. That seems to make sense, the next console would come the same year as very big titles for the previous titles. Makes allot of sense. Actually, 2018 will be the 6th year of the Wii U... lol But I agree with everything you've said, Creative. I still think that 2016 is too early, and it'd mess up the generation system, like I said in a previous post. Well I said 5 years because it wasn't released until November of 2015. Thinking back it would probably be released November of 2018 too so, meh.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 1, 2015 6:48:24 GMT
Well I said 5 years because it wasn't released until November of 2015. This is beautiful.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Dec 1, 2015 15:22:20 GMT
I just hope that everyone doesn't shit on it like they did with the Wii U. The Wii U is incredibly superior... Why the heck does a console need to have a million games for it to be a GOOD gaming platform. It's no more than a system that you play games on, it's specifically designed to play the games released for it. What does the Wii U do wrong? It plays all of it's titles perfectly fine, I only occasionally get a frame rate drop in Splatoon. The games on the Wii U aren't bad. Everyone here has seen and played Pikmin 3 (I hope), you can't tell me that it isn't absolutely beautiful! Sure, it's nothing like the first two games, but it still keeps the main idea and a very similar objective and like I just said, it's gorgeous! How does someone look at this game and say "The Wii U has shit graphics!", like it just doesn't make sense! People waste their lives saying FPS games and GTA are the only good games and if you don't play Call of Duty, you're "gay", IMPLYING GAY IS AN INSULT! (I'm just talking about the large majority of Nintendo haters, not all of them hate gays). People need to stop hating Nintendo because they make VIDEO GAMES. They haven't impressed me for a while but they're still much better than XBOX and PlayStation. What even is the story in CoD? Oh wait, no-one knows because PEOPLE JUST BUY IT FOR THE MULTIPLAYER. What about GTA? Oh wait, PEOPLE JUST BUY IT SO THEY CAN MOD IT MAKE YOUTUBE VIDEOS OVERREACTING. And soon... Mobile gaming. Everyone's gonna sit on their iPad's and play candy crush, "I'm a true gamer now!". WHAT EVEN IS THE MEANING OF "GAMER"? ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO LIKE TO INTERACT WITH A MEDIA ARE THEIR OWN SPECIES? I'M STILL HUMAN. And 6 year olds on their one thousand dollar iPads are so proud of being called a "gamer", they probably couldn't name more than 3 ACTUAL games! (I bet MineCraft would be the first they'd mention). Sorry for ranting, some people just really annoy me... The reason a large majority of people rant on it is because they don't understand what it is. Many people still think that the Wii U is just a controller for the original Wii and don't even know it's its own console. This is mostly Nintendo's fault, becuase they suck at marketing. Perhaps if they understood this then third party support would be higher and people would realize that the Wii U is the superior console of this generation. Those who say that Call of Duty is the best game are just people from a completely different stereotype and you can ignore them. A lot of people who play that game are the same people who play Madden games; completely different culture. That culture doesn't understand our culture, or don't see the appeal, and because of that they criticize. Learn to ignore them, and don't be one of them by criticizing them. Also erase any sort of definition of "gamer" from your mind. It doesn't exist. We have yet to really create titles for the different branches of gaming. Mobile gaming is a good thing, its bringing those who don't understand much about gaming and introducing them to what it is. Mobile games are different, they are mostly time killers, but don't put yourself in a place above them just because you think playing games on the Wii U is better. Many who play mobile games have no interest in console gaming, just deal with it. Complaining like this is literally no different than the people who say only call of duty is good. All of that being said. PC MASTER RACE MY OUR FRAMRATES BE MIGHTY AND OUR DRAW DISTANCE BE FAR. gitgudscrub
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Dec 1, 2015 21:11:54 GMT
OH MY GOD! We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year) Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season. The reason that I said they might, is becuase they should. 1. The Wii U is not a flop, the wii u is under-preformed. The virtual boy was a flop. 2. The average span of a console is 5 years, and 2018 would be the fifth year of the Wii U. 3. For your B point I'd say. "Who gives a crap?" Thats brings no evidence. But if you want an actual answer, Since the Wii U is underpreformed, they wanted people to know that they are still alive and don't plan on dying. 4. So your advising that they do the same thing that they did before and expect different results? Great idea! 5. That seems to make sense, the next console would come the same year as very big titles for the previous titles. Makes allot of sense. The Wii U was in no way a flop... but a lot of people (especially investors) think it was. Also if the average span of a console was 5 years (which it is), that would make the 5th year 2017. (SNES 5th year 1996 (N64 launch year), N64 2001 (GCN launch year), GCN 2006 (Wii launch year), PS1 1995 (PS2 launch year), PS2 200 (PS3 launch year). For my B point, while I agree that that was a big reason for it, it would be very dumb to announce and publicize that your system's Codename, and then keep people waiting for 3 years. And beyond that it was already confirmed we will get more details next year, and I doubt they are not referring to announcment-esk details. For 4.... yes it could easily fail... BUT if Nintendo actually has big games, third party exclusives, and an actually good marketing campaign, those 2 years could be huge. 5.One of those titles is an arcade port, one is a translation, one is potentially Pikmin 4 (but who knows on that one), two are delays (which was not factored into NX's hardware development), and one is a remake. If you read my more recent comments, I give up trying to figure this out, since there are reasons why it would launch in 2017.... but I am just explaining what my point was. Also it won't be 2018. Wii and NES are the only Nintendo home consoles to get a 6 year lifecycle, and those 2 were huge hits. The Wii U has failed to hit Gamecube numbers, yet the GCN, SNES, and N64, which have outsold the Wii U, only had 5 year lifecycles. With all of the consumer and investor pressure on Nintendo to replace Wii U, NX will be 2016 or 2017. Again I<<<< don't think Wii U is a flop BUT what I was trying to point out was that many many other people do.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Dec 6, 2015 2:33:23 GMT
If recent patents suggest NX is just an add-on for Wii U (which could easily be false and they are referring to an add-on for NX or it is just an idea that won't come true), then NX could very well come out next year, and then Nintendo's ninth gen system would release in 2018 or 2019.... but Kimishima did say NX was completely different from Wii U so that makes the add-on idea a bit less likely.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 6, 2015 6:50:40 GMT
I just hope that everyone doesn't shit on it like they did with the Wii U. The Wii U is incredibly superior... Why the heck does a console need to have a million games for it to be a GOOD gaming platform. It's no more than a system that you play games on, it's specifically designed to play the games released for it. What does the Wii U do wrong? It plays all of it's titles perfectly fine, I only occasionally get a frame rate drop in Splatoon. The games on the Wii U aren't bad. Everyone here has seen and played Pikmin 3 (I hope), you can't tell me that it isn't absolutely beautiful! Sure, it's nothing like the first two games, but it still keeps the main idea and a very similar objective and like I just said, it's gorgeous! How does someone look at this game and say "The Wii U has shit graphics!", like it just doesn't make sense! People waste their lives saying FPS games and GTA are the only good games and if you don't play Call of Duty, you're "gay", IMPLYING GAY IS AN INSULT! (I'm just talking about the large majority of Nintendo haters, not all of them hate gays). People need to stop hating Nintendo because they make VIDEO GAMES. They haven't impressed me for a while but they're still much better than XBOX and PlayStation. What even is the story in CoD? Oh wait, no-one knows because PEOPLE JUST BUY IT FOR THE MULTIPLAYER. What about GTA? Oh wait, PEOPLE JUST BUY IT SO THEY CAN MOD IT MAKE YOUTUBE VIDEOS OVERREACTING. And soon... Mobile gaming. Everyone's gonna sit on their iPad's and play candy crush, "I'm a true gamer now!". WHAT EVEN IS THE MEANING OF "GAMER"? ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO SAY THAT THOSE WHO LIKE TO INTERACT WITH A MEDIA ARE THEIR OWN SPECIES? I'M STILL HUMAN. And 6 year olds on their one thousand dollar iPads are so proud of being called a "gamer", they probably couldn't name more than 3 ACTUAL games! (I bet MineCraft would be the first they'd mention). Sorry for ranting, some people just really annoy me... I agree. There's nothing wrong with the Wii U's graphics; they're beautiful! They complement the games very nicely. I really don't understand why people say the Wii U sucks just because it has only 1080p, not 4K. Come on people, not a lot of people have 4K TVs yet. Sheesh. Isn't 1080p enough?! Apparently not. People are so ungrateful. Just be glad you even have 1080p graphics. I know I am! Regarding the "million games" bit: I believe consoles don't always need to have lots of games to be economically successful, but when you've got only 1st party titles and indie games for a console, and hardly any 3rd party titles, things can go awry. It's good to have diversity. Unfortunately, the Wii U was pretty much abandoned by 3rd parties, leaving it to suffer. That's not to say the Wii U doesn't have great games, because it does have great games. It just... didn't have enough, I suppose. Enough to appease the majority of gamers, that is. Personally, I get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, as do all the other Nintendo fans. As for mobile gaming: we live in an age where everything is expected to be quick and instantaneous, and that's been applied to video games, too. Kids these days just don't have the patience for console gaming anymore. They've been watered down by mobile gaming. If recent patents suggest NX is just an add-on for Wii U (which could easily be false and they are referring to an add-on for NX or it is just an idea that won't come true), then NX could very well come out next year, and then Nintendo's ninth gen system would release in 2018 or 2019.... but Kimishima did say NX was completely different from Wii U so that makes the add-on idea a bit less likely. I really doubt that the NX will be a mere addon. I'm thinking that the NX will be Nintendo's 9th gen console. But who knows? We'll find out next year.
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Post by Yami on Dec 6, 2015 16:38:09 GMT
I'm pretty sure the NX will be the next console. In this interview the new president stated the NX is a departure from the Wii and Wii U. He also stated that they will keep making software for the Wii U. So I feel like the NX will probably come out in the Holiday season of 2017. Also! I believe Reggie stated at E3 that at the 2016 E3 will talk about NX. I could be wrong with that though.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 7, 2015 8:27:31 GMT
I'm pretty sure the NX will be the next console. In this interview the new president stated the NX is a departure from the Wii and Wii U. He also stated that they will keep making software for the Wii U. So I feel like the NX will probably come out in the Holiday season of 2017. Also! I believe Reggie stated at E3 that at the 2016 E3 will talk about NX. I could be wrong with that though. I'm not sure if Reggie actually said that the NX will be revealed at E3 2016, but I'm betting on it. Even if it isn't, they still promised to reveal it sometime next year, so... I agree with everything else you said, though.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 7, 2015 20:49:29 GMT
I agree. There's nothing wrong with the Wii U's graphics; they're beautiful! They complement the games very nicely. I really don't understand why people say the Wii U sucks just because it has only 1080p, not 4K. Come on people, not a lot of people have 4K TVs yet. Sheesh. Isn't 1080p enough?! Apparently not. People are so ungrateful. Just be glad you even have 1080p graphics. I know I am! Regarding the "million games" bit: I believe consoles don't always need to have lots of games to be economically successful, but when you've got only 1st party titles and indie games for a console, and hardly any 3rd party titles, things can go awry. It's good to have diversity. Unfortunately, the Wii U was pretty much abandoned by 3rd parties, leaving it to suffer. That's not to say the Wii U doesn't have great games, because it does have great games. It just... didn't have enough, I suppose. Enough to appease the majority of gamers, that is. Personally, I get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, as do all the other Nintendo fans. As for mobile gaming: we live in an age where everything is expected to be quick and instantaneous, and that's been applied to video games, too. Kids these days just don't have the patience for console gaming anymore. They've been watered down by mobile gaming. Exactly! What do graphics even change?! The point of a game is to interact with a form of media. PONG IS GAME ISN'T IT? It is literally a ball and two lines, but what makes it a VIDEO GAME is that we, as PLAYERS, interact with this form of media. It's not about the next generation five billion pixels per millimetre quality that our eyes CAN'T EVEN SEE! And mobile gaming really depresses me... It's all about how fast and how easy it is to do anything... I can't see a year 12 in 10 years even considering university, let alone, TAFE. Humanity is just getting worse, not better. :/ Graphics aren't everything, but they do make video games look nice. And yeah, I'm saddened that people are looking to mobile gaming instead of traditional console gaming. I really hope we still have consoles in 10 more years... By the way, what's "TAFE" mean?
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Post by PikFan23 on Apr 28, 2016 3:53:31 GMT
CALLED IT! I SO CALLED IT! TAKE THAT, DUMB GAMING WEBSITES!
But...hmm. It's interesting that they'd choose to release it a few months after the holiday season. (Nice prediction JPM!) Not to mention, Zelda was delayed AGAIN (thankfully only by a few months this time) to coincide with the NX's launch... Just what are the guys at Nintendo thinking? Mysterious as always... Ah well, even just four months could be enough time for devs to make a strong NX lineup.
The countdown begins...
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Post by Creative Sushi on May 4, 2016 23:23:38 GMT
CALLED IT! I SO CALLED IT! TAKE THAT, DUMB GAMING WEBSITES!
But...hmm. It's interesting that they'd choose to release it a few months after the holiday season. (Nice prediction JPM!) Not to mention, Zelda was delayed AGAIN (thankfully only by a few months this time) to coincide with the NX's launch... Just what are the guys at Nintendo thinking? Mysterious as always... Ah well, even just four months could be enough time for devs to make a strong NX lineup. The countdown begins... Yeah both of us were right. I think Josh was closest to right though saying early 2nd Quarter of 2017 Edit: oh right you said that. Granted I said it might be all the way to 2018, but I guessed it would more than likely be earlier 2017
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