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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 20, 2015 3:57:32 GMT
So, if you've played a single Pikmin game for 5 seconds, you would know the typical way of attacking with Pikmin involves throwing them. One other thing you could collect in Pikmin 4 besides it's main collection objective (It'd be pretty likely to have something main to collect seeing as Pikmin 1 had ship parts, 2 had treasure, and 3 had fruit) could be various resources like wood. Those could then be used to make contraptions meant for using Pikmin with. For example, say you could make a rather large (or normal sized since the smallness and all that) slingshot. It would press into the ground wherever, and could launch Pikmin farther. Say there is a pink 5 pellet on the opposite side of a body of water with no way to walk up to it. You could instead shoot 5 Winged Pikmin at it to bring it back. You could also use a slingshot in a battle scenario. Imagine an Armored Mawdad with thicker armor that you couldn't break no matter how many Rocks you threw, but there was a path going up to the parts for a slingshot that the Pikmin could put together. A captain could then launch a Rock Pikmin with more force thanks to the slingshot and break the armor. It could also be helpful for Purples which would stun for a longer time upon impact. Maybe you could even launch sprays from a distance and rush in with another captain!
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 20, 2015 23:04:28 GMT
Would the slingshot be able to launch upwards at all? That could inflict some serious damage on flying enemies.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 21, 2015 2:53:14 GMT
Would the slingshot be able to launch upwards at all? That could inflict some serious damage on flying enemies. Yea, it could aim in almost any direction
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 21, 2015 20:26:57 GMT
I see. Here's another idea: how about small weapons that Pikmin can wield, such as bows and arrows? It's kinda silly, but if Pikmin used bows and arrows, they could attack enemies from a distance, but it'd only work on enemies that aren't armored. And it's even better if you've got a lot of bow and arrow Pikmin, because they could all be shooting the same enemy, and kill even big enemies like Bulborbs in a matter of seconds. To make it so this isn't OP, I'd say that the arrows disappear after they hit the target, so you have to collect more resources in order to make more arrows.
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Post by MadVendingMachine on Nov 21, 2015 22:32:18 GMT
I see. Here's another idea: how about small weapons that Pikmin can wield, such as bows and arrows? That's a great idea! Let's also allow them to hold submachine guns such as this and such as that. The idea would work very balance.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 21, 2015 22:50:24 GMT
I see. Here's another idea: how about small weapons that Pikmin can wield, such as bows and arrows? That's a great idea! Let's also allow them to hold submachine guns such as this and such as that. The idea would work very balance. It has to actually make sense. I doubt Captains know how to forge that kind of weaponry.
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 21, 2015 22:58:51 GMT
Wait, referring to the guns, or the bows and arrows?
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Post by MadVendingMachine on Nov 21, 2015 23:12:02 GMT
That's a great idea! Let's also allow them to hold submachine guns such as this and such as that. The idea would work very balance. It has to actually make sense. I doubt Captains know how to forge that kind of weaponry. I'm going to presume that is a response to "PikFan23" and not me because you should be able to understand basic sarcasm. Actually if it was indeed a reply to him, I'm pretty sure Hocotatians and Koppaites would know how to make a bow and arrow, does not make it a good idea though.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 22, 2015 0:44:42 GMT
It has to actually make sense. I doubt Captains know how to forge that kind of weaponry. I'm going to presume that is a response to "PikFan23" and not me because you should be able to understand basic sarcasm. Actually if it was indeed a reply to him, I'm pretty sure Hocotatians and Koppaites would know how to make a bow and arrow, does not make it a good idea though. I like taking sarcasm literal
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 22, 2015 1:53:16 GMT
In all seriousness though... How do you feel about my idea?
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Post by Klemen702 on Nov 22, 2015 15:07:00 GMT
In all seriousness though... How do you feel about my idea? It's actually a bit good if it stays in the pikmin style. Prehaps normal rocks that do the same damage as a normal pikmin but allow pikmin to attack from farther away as you said (To make it less OP, only around 25 could be found every other day.). Another idea i have is that when it's raining non-blue and winged pikmin have a higher chance to trip. To avoid this, pikmin could take some leaves and use them as an umbrella. Then again they would probably drop them most of the time because they would have to work.
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Post by jpmrocks on Nov 23, 2015 18:04:33 GMT
I feel being able to place down a slingshot where ever they please would be a bit iffy. If there were pre-placed slingshots, use for a specific puzzle (like boss fights are launching Pikmin further across a river), it could work better. I feel arc planning would be extremely difficult, however.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 24, 2015 14:53:47 GMT
I feel being able to place down a slingshot where ever they please would be a bit iffy. If there were pre-placed slingshots, use for a specific puzzle (like boss fights are launching Pikmin further across a river), it could work better. I feel arc planning would be extremely difficult, however. Pre-placing would work, but it would become something different. Instead of being useful for battle, it would instead be useful for puzzles or nearby enemies. While it would work, it would also seem more like a bridge for example that is only useful for the location it's in.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Nov 24, 2015 15:20:11 GMT
I feel being able to place down a slingshot where ever they please would be a bit iffy. If there were pre-placed slingshots, use for a specific puzzle (like boss fights are launching Pikmin further across a river), it could work better. I feel arc planning would be extremely difficult, however. Pre-placing would work, but it would become something different. Instead of being useful for battle, it would instead be useful for puzzles or nearby enemies. While it would work, it would also seem more like a bridge for example that is only useful for the location it's in. "Using it in battle" would require you to construct a large slingshot quickly to attack an enemy. That makes sense. Also you may as well have set locations because your going to be limited to where your resources are to build them are in the first place. I'm not a huge fan of this idea in the first place. Look at the weapons we already have. Bomb rocks and sprays. Natural things. Slingshots don't really fit in at all. The pikmin projectile idea seems to work better for me. Although I think it would work more like a new type of Pikmin who has the ability to shoot thorn projectiles.
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Post by The Shearsquid on Nov 24, 2015 16:17:49 GMT
Pre-placing would work, but it would become something different. Instead of being useful for battle, it would instead be useful for puzzles or nearby enemies. While it would work, it would also seem more like a bridge for example that is only useful for the location it's in. "Using it in battle" would require you to construct a large slingshot quickly to attack an enemy. That makes sense. Also you may as well have set locations because your going to be limited to where your resources are to build them are in the first place. I'm not a huge fan of this idea in the first place. Look at the weapons we already have. Bomb rocks and sprays. Natural things. Slingshots don't really fit in at all. The pikmin projectile idea seems to work better for me. Although I think it would work more like a new type of Pikmin who has the ability to shoot thorn projectiles. Maybe a green cactus-like Pikmin? Also, you said you didn't like it because it isn't natural and used sprays as an example. I don't think that can be considered natural as their natural form is berries. I don't see how processing berries into sprays is different from using other materials to make structures.
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