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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 28, 2015 2:02:56 GMT
Okay, so I've been reading articles lately about the NX, but most of them insist that the NX will be released in 2016. That's absolutely bonkers. For one thing, even though the Wii U is struggling, I can't see it being released next year. Only four years for the Wii U? That's insane. And also, Nintendo consoles are usually launched the year AFTER they are officially revealed, not during the same year. The GameCube was revealed in 2000 and launched in 2001. The Wii was revealed in 2005 and launched in 2006. The Wii U was revealed in 2011 and launched in 2012. Following this pattern, since the NX will be revealed next year, it only makes sense that it'll launch in 2017.
People also claim that it's better to release the NX sooner so that it replaces the Wii U, which is considered dead. I disagree with this. A console is only dead when no more games are being released for it and it's been discontinued. The Wii U hasn't reached either of these points yet, so it's not dead. Also, people say that having a "dead" system will just be bad for Nintendo. However, people are forgetting how much revenue Nintendo generated during the Wii/DS era. Even if the Wii U doesn't turn a huge profit, Nintendo has enough money to sustain itself until 2017, and way further than that, too. Besides, early launches aren't always a good thing, as was the case with the Wii U. Due to its lack of noteworthy games at launch, third parties quickly abandoned it, and... need I say more?
My point is: Nintendo won't rush the NX. They're not going to launch it the same year it will be announced. They're going to take their time developing the console and making great games for it. This will (hopefully) recapture the attention of third parties. That way, they'll have a bigger lineup of games than the Wii U, and it'll sell more. Having a 2016 launch would be risky, and I don't see a 2016 launch really working in their favor. Sorry, I just needed to get this off my chest, as it's been bugging me really badly.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Nov 29, 2015 5:31:55 GMT
I agree with you completely. Honestly we may seem an even later release. I believe Nintendo made a mistake trying to get a console out earlier than its competitors, and I think they should get it out the same year as the Xbox and Playstation, meaning we may not see it until 2018.
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 29, 2015 7:27:52 GMT
I agree with you completely. Honestly we may seem an even later release. I believe Nintendo made a mistake trying to get a console out earlier than its competitors, and I think they should get it out the same year as the Xbox and Playstation, meaning we may not see it until 2018. Exactly. I'm willing to be patient if it means an even higher quality console from Nintendo. You know what they say, after all -- slow and steady wins the race.
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Post by Creative Sushi on Nov 29, 2015 21:33:55 GMT
I agree with you completely. Honestly we may seem an even later release. I believe Nintendo made a mistake trying to get a console out earlier than its competitors, and I think they should get it out the same year as the Xbox and Playstation, meaning we may not see it until 2018. Exactly. I'm willing to be patient if it means an even higher quality console from Nintendo. You know what they say, after all -- slow and steady wins the race. High quality isn't exactly what I'm looking for, I'm sure they will deliver on that. The Wii U was very high quality. What I want is competitive so that Nintendo won't go under. They need to focus more on good marketing everywhere, and not just cater to Japan.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 3:41:19 GMT
OH MY GOD!
We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems
Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year)
Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 3:45:35 GMT
I don't want Nintendo to rush the NX, and if they didn't have investors, they would not, but investors won't be happy until the Wii U is repalced. Nintendo has never had a good time with investors, and I am surprised they have not gone private yet BUT they have investors, which means they have to listen. Also I didn't mention it earlier, but Xbox 360 was annoucned a year before it launched, Xbone was announced same year. PS3 was announced a year before it launched, PS4 was announced same year.
And also DEV KITs being shipped only recently doesn't mean developers haven't had more time to develop for the hardware. Nintendo could have given third parties specs some time in 2014 or even before, but not dev kits or finalized specs. Or dev kits were shipped sooner, and the writer of the article confused the first devs to get finalized dev kits as the first devs to get dev kits.
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Post by PikFan23 on Nov 30, 2015 5:11:43 GMT
OH MY GOD! We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year) Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season. Look. I'm aware that the Wii U is a "flop". But rushing a replacement is no good either. They'll sustain the Wii U as long as they need to in order to prepare the NX for launch. Nintendo has so much money that even a failure of the NX wouldn't hurt them very badly. But I'm not saying that they should fail the NX. Making profits is always a good thing. So they should sustain the Wii U until they've primed the NX for launch, which will probably happen in 2017. You claim that the NX having a two year headstart over the other 9th gen consoles is a good thing. Really now??? Early launches aren't always good, as was the case with the Wii U. It launched a year before its competitors so it would have a headstart on them, but where it is now? It's this way because it was rushed. Devs scrambled to make last-minute games to launch with the Wii U, but people saw that they were low quality. They had no interest in the Wii U's games, so most people avoided it. With low sales, third parties saw no reason to keep investing in the Wii U, and so abandoned it. This snowball effect, I believe, was the main reason why the Wii U did not have great sales. Having the NX launch in 2016 is very risky. Nobody knows other than Nintendo how far along the NX is. Even then, I can't see it being ready for launch just one year away, with a strong launch game lineup. You mentioned the Xbox One and PS4 being released the same year that they were announced. But that's Microsoft and Sony. They probably have different policies than Nintendo regarding console launches. Following Nintendo's launch pattern of HOME consoles (read: NOT portables), it's likely we'll see a 2017 release. Besides, having a 2016 launch just messes up the generation system. We'd start the 9th generation with only one console for two years. And also, if Nintendo does launch the NX in 2016, its technology will be outdated by 2018, meaning that the other 9th gen consoles will be even more powerful. I expect that MS/Sony's 9th gen consoles will be more powerful than the NX anyway, but having such a significant time difference between the NX and the other 9th gen consoles will really alienate their hardware. Anyway... I just think a 2016 launch is foolish. It'll make the NX rushed and underperforming. Sorry to disappoint you, but we'll probably see a 2017 launch. This'll ensure the success of the NX, as it will have plenty of time to make complete and thorough launch games for it.
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Post by jpmrocks on Nov 30, 2015 15:47:23 GMT
I'm guessing Early Q2 of 2017.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 23:34:46 GMT
I'm guessing Early Q2 of 2017. That is a no. Nintendo would have a much better launch during a holiday. Id expect Q4 2016 or 2017
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 23:35:35 GMT
I actually give up. It could be 2016, it could be 2017. For the reasoning of DQ XI making a bigger impact for Japanese sales, and being one step ahead of competiton, 2016 seems more likely, but 2017 is also very likely so I give up. We will probably find out early next year
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 23:38:06 GMT
OH MY GOD! We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year) Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season. Look. I'm aware that the Wii U is a "flop". But rushing a replacement is no good either. They'll sustain the Wii U as long as they need to in order to prepare the NX for launch. Nintendo has so much money that even a failure of the NX wouldn't hurt them very badly. But I'm not saying that they should fail the NX. Making profits is always a good thing. So they should sustain the Wii U until they've primed the NX for launch, which will probably happen in 2017. You claim that the NX having a two year headstart over the other 9th gen consoles is a good thing. Really now??? Early launches aren't always good, as was the case with the Wii U. It launched a year before its competitors so it would have a headstart on them, but where it is now? It's this way because it was rushed. Devs scrambled to make last-minute games to launch with the Wii U, but people saw that they were low quality. They had no interest in the Wii U's games, so most people avoided it. With low sales, third parties saw no reason to keep investing in the Wii U, and so abandoned it. This snowball effect, I believe, was the main reason why the Wii U did not have great sales. Having the NX launch in 2016 is very risky. Nobody knows other than Nintendo how far along the NX is. Even then, I can't see it being ready for launch just one year away, with a strong launch game lineup. You mentioned the Xbox One and PS4 being released the same year that they were announced. But that's Microsoft and Sony. They probably have different policies than Nintendo regarding console launches. Following Nintendo's launch pattern of HOME consoles (read: NOT portables), it's likely we'll see a 2017 release. Besides, having a 2016 launch just messes up the generation system. We'd start the 9th generation with only one console for two years. And also, if Nintendo does launch the NX in 2016, its technology will be outdated by 2018, meaning that the other 9th gen consoles will be even more powerful. I expect that MS/Sony's 9th gen consoles will be more powerful than the NX anyway, but having such a significant time difference between the NX and the other 9th gen consoles will really alienate their hardware. Anyway... I just think a 2016 launch is foolish. It'll make the NX rushed and underperforming. Sorry to disappoint you, but we'll probably see a 2017 launch. This'll ensure the success of the NX, as it will have plenty of time to make complete and thorough launch games for it. I Microsoft & sony announced at least one year before with all consoles before this gen. Also Wii U failed to take advantage of its one year headstart. If Nintendo and third party devs did not make as many mistakes, that one year could have helped a lot, like with X360. At the same time, it could do a Dreamcast so at this point I give up trying to defend any position or figuring out which year is best. Im fine with either.
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Post by GoldenTriforce on Nov 30, 2015 23:53:35 GMT
One thing though, Nintendo neeeeeds DQXI to do well on NX (which would probably mean NX releasing in 2016) because if it doesn't, that will really hurt it in Japan, so releasing NX and DQXI in 2016 would be very good for THAT purpose.
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Post by PikFan23 on Dec 1, 2015 0:34:54 GMT
Yeah... It's kinda pointless debating on its release date since nobody knows for sure. We're just speculating. But a 2016 release still seems pretty early if you ask me...
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Post by Creative Sushi on Dec 1, 2015 1:13:03 GMT
OH MY GOD! We won't see it until 2018. That is dumb. A. Wii U is a flop, why would they sustain it for 3 more years??? B. WHY WOULD THEY GIVE THE CODENAME 3 YEARS BEFORE RELEASE? At most they say it 1.5ish years before. Iwata could have said "we have another system in development", but he said "code named NX" AND that they would be talking about it in 2016 C. If Sony and Microsoft make another system (yes I said if, if you want to know why, Adam Koralik made a good YouTube video about it), it will launch in 2018. If Nintendo launched the NX on 2016, they would not only have a more powerful system than their competitors for 2 years, but also have a cheaper console once the competitors launch their 9th gen systems Everything is pointing to a 2016 release (Not many new Wii U games for 2016 announced since E3 and beyond, DQXI being confirmed for NX, investor pressure, the dev kit rumor, and the fact that the system is being announced next year) Trust me, 2 years ago I thought their 9th gen system would launch in 2018. Before this March I was thinking 2017 Now I think it would be crasy if the system launched after early 2017, and Nintendo is GOING to launch it during a holiday season. The reason that I said they might, is becuase they should. 1. The Wii U is not a flop, the wii u is under-preformed. The virtual boy was a flop. 2. The average span of a console is 5 years, and 2018 would be the fifth year of the Wii U. 3. For your B point I'd say. "Who gives a crap?" Thats brings no evidence. But if you want an actual answer, Since the Wii U is underpreformed, they wanted people to know that they are still alive and don't plan on dying. 4. So your advising that they do the same thing that they did before and expect different results? Great idea! 5. That seems to make sense, the next console would come the same year as very big titles for the previous titles. Makes allot of sense.
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Post by jpmrocks on Dec 1, 2015 2:04:07 GMT
I'm guessing Early Q2 of 2017. That is a no. Nintendo would have a much better launch during a holiday. Id expect Q4 2016 or 2017 Except thats what happened with WiiU, and we can see how well that went.
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